Debian: WTF? edition.

There is a reason that Ubuntu–and family–is chosen over the backassward sperm donor father OS of the line: Debian is a nightmare!

The nightmare officially starts when you download this clusterfu…. intriguing OS. Where as Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, openSUS, and various others require you to make a few clicks to set things up, Debian nags the fuck out of you requires constant attention during the setup process. While you can wander away from the other installs just mentioned, with Debian, you are chained to the keyboard making selections every couple of minutes. Also, at least with the other installers you get some nice graphics to look at, basic info on what you can do with the system, in other words an attempt to make you feel invited into the OS. Dreckian Debian on the other hand sports ground breaking Windows 3.x graphics that make even BIOS graphics look like DOOM 3 compared to Space Invaders (not there there is anything wrong with Space Invaders.. dropped many a quarter into those machines…). Debian is at best cold and impersonal. It is obvious that it was designed by geeks FOR geeks. It seems the whole purpose of the setup routine is to scare the living bejebus out of noobs “encourage” people new to the Linux world to seek qualified people to install the OS for them.

After booting up, Debian throws a wall of text at the user, for no other reason than to throw a wall of text up. The text goes by so fast no one could spot a problem if one DID show up while booting (mind you, other versions of Linux do the same… but not as well as Debbie does Pogson Debian (Dweebian? in honor of our nerdy friends?). After D’ OhioHam Debian gets finished with the wall of nonsense, the login screen comes up. Not too bad… pick your user name, enter pass word and VOILA! the desktop appears… JUDAS FELLATE A GOAT WHAT THE HELL IS THIS STEAMING PILE OF CAMEL DROPPINGS?!? Wow…. now that is an “interesting” desktop. Top bar, bottom bar with lots of wasted space on both. Applications, Places, System are all pretty self explanatory so I really can’t gripe about that, other than to ask “Why do we need 3(!) drop down menus?”. Why not take a clue from say, KDE? Windows? OSX? Unity? at least something that tries to unify stuff in one central place.

And the font rendering… I think I said that Rekonq renders fonts in the spirit of rendering animal carcasses? Well GNOME takes the leftovers of the carcass and molests them… in public… with no shame. Unlike Kubuntu (with pixel by pixel tweaking), or Ubuntu w/MyUnity, Debian/GNOME (at least in this install) offers the chance to bleed from your eyeballs change the wallpaper, and the theme…. that my friends is it.

In playing around with Debian, I discovered 2 web browsers that were slow as pine tar, and no where near as useful. Webpage rendering (HAH! see above^) was subpar in speed and legibility with default font sizes that ranged from minuscule to microscopic.

At this point I gave up on Dreckian and have removed it from my computer and am about to get on my knees and beg it to forgive me for letting that OS (preferred by Pogson) be rendered on it, even in a VM.

I have determined at this point the sole purpose and grace of Debian w/GNOME is that it makes K/L/Ubuntu et al look like highly polished, well designed and thought out OSes.

When it comes to Debian: JUST SAY NO!*

*If anyone you know/love decides to infect their machine with this “OS”, you are permitted, no you have a MORAL IMPERATIVE! to render them unconscious  and lock them in the closet until they come to their senses.

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4 Responses to Debian: WTF? edition.

  1. kurkosdr says:

    Kurkosdr here.

    I am forced to use Debian at the university. Fortunately someone else has set it up for me, with full codecs, flash and .rar support, so it’s not as bad as it is for most people. At least it’s more stable than Ubuntu. And after the Solaris 9 boxes we previously had, it looks much better.

    PS: I don’t know what version of Debian and Gnome I am running, and the System menu is confusing. Why some of the settings under System are in Preferences and some other under system administration?

    • Why some of the settings under System are in Preferences and some other under system administration?

      This^. Why not just stick them all under one thing and be done with it?

  2. Jake says:

    “Where as Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, openSUS, and various others require you to make a few clicks to set things up, Debian nags the fuck out of you requires constant attention during the setup process.”

    This is the only legitamate “problem” you’ve listed. Yes, the installer could be better. But you only have to install it once and never again.

    “Debian on the other hand sports ground breaking Windows 3.x graphics that make even BIOS graphics look like DOOM 3 compared to Space Invaders”

    There is a graphical installer. Right on the initial installer menu. It’s not even hidden. But again, you only installer the system once, so why does it matter?

    “After booting up, Debian throws a wall of text at the user, for no other reason than to throw a wall of text up.”

    Troubleshooting. What a pointless thing to complain about.

    “The text goes by so fast no one could spot a problem if one DID show up while booting”

    If there is a problem, the text doesn’t pass by immideitely. And the text is saved to a file so you can look back at it.

    “Top bar, bottom bar with lots of wasted space on both.”

    I don’t know what to say other then “wow.”

    “Applications, Places, System are all pretty self explanatory so I really can’t gripe about that, other than to ask “Why do we need 3(!) drop down menus?”. Why not take a clue from say, KDE? Windows? OSX? Unity? at least something that tries to unify stuff in one central place.”

    Maybe because it, you know, makes more sense? It takes less clicks to get to the things you want. Why doesn’t KDE, Aero, OSX or Unity do this?

    “And the font rendering… I think I said that Rekonq renders fonts in the spirit of rendering animal carcasses? Well GNOME takes the leftovers of the carcass and molests them… in public… with no shame.”

    This is why people try to recreate the same font in KDE distros all the time, right? And you can easily change both the font and the way it’s rendered.

    “Unlike Kubuntu (with pixel by pixel tweaking), or Ubuntu w/MyUnity, Debian/GNOME (at least in this install) offers the chance to bleed from your eyeballs change the wallpaper, and the theme…. that my friends is it.”

    Gnome 2 is far more customizable than Unity. KDE is more customizable than Gnome 2, but you had the option to use KDE in the installer.

    “In playing around with Debian, I discovered 2 web browsers that were slow as pine tar, and no where near as useful. Webpage rendering (HAH! see above^) was subpar in speed and legibility with default font sizes that ranged from minuscule to microscopic.”

    You Firefox? Firefox works just as well in Debian as any other Linux distro.

    “I have determined at this point the sole purpose and grace of Debian w/GNOME is that it makes K/L/Ubuntu et al look like highly polished, well designed and thought out OSes.”

    Ubuntu is, and has always been, the most problematique distro I’ve ever used. The words “Ubuntu” and “polished” shouldn’t even be used in the same sentence. Why do you think so many users, once experienced with Ubuntu, “upgrade” to Debian?

    Real reasons to not use Debian:
    1. It’s not the best place to start out if you’re new to Linux (but, aside from the Ubuntu-based distros, it’s the easiest).
    2. Outdated software if you’re using Stable. Though it makes more sense to use outdated, stable software and upgrade the software that you need to be up to date. I mean, why should my operating system be ruinning on top of a whole bunch of unstable software I don’t need? It doesn’t and it shouldn’t.

    And that’s about it.

    As for the person who said they didn’t have codecs and stuff, you literally have to choose to leave that stuff out in the installer.

    So, please don’t spread misinformation. Next time you make a rant like this, make sure you know what you’re talking about and have valid things to rant about (omg the installer isn’t pretty enough).

  3. Yeah debian is a load of shit, I just use Linux Mint, I tried the debian version and it sucked shit and couldn’t work right no matter anything. TAILS linux was equally as big a piece of shit. Went to Liberte. Gentoo based and much better. Runs great on my Razer Blade

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